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Has Corbyn Destroyed Labour?
28 June 2016 20:46 Post ID: #349564
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At least Camoron has some honour stepping down. Corbyn must be a very vain, stupid or stubborn idiot?

81% of his own MPs aren't backing him. 12 of his shadow cabinet have resigned in one day, 47 in total.

The Tories are in turmoil but Corbyn is bringing most of the focus is now on Labour and that fool. A golden opportunity to put the boot in but instead he is killing the party.

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28 June 2016 20:57 Post ID: #349565 - in reply to #349564
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The bitter Blairites are even more guilty of destroying the party. In an ideal world I would like to see both the main parties fracture and PR to come in.
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28 June 2016 21:17 Post ID: #349566 - in reply to #349565
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I'm not a Blairite per sè but I'd have him over Corbyn any day. I don't like him and our local Labour leader either. I've never voted for the latter nor will I ever vote for the former.

An article I read earlier this year sums it up succinctly. He is intent on turning the party into an unelectable far left party that will ensure Osborne, Johnson and Co can punish the working class without any opposition for a generation.


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"Mr Corbyn may seem a bumbling, semi-lovable ass who can’t make up his mind. In fact, he is a determined operator, surrounded and advised by other determined operators, engaged in nothing less than the transformation of Labour into a Hard-Left Party.

The accepted wisdom is he won’t succeed. Either the moderates in the Parliamentary Labour Party will rise up against him. Or, if they don’t, Labour will go down to the mother of all defeats at the 2020 General Election.

My advice to anyone who cares about democracy and the future of this country is not to take either of these assumptions for granted."


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28 June 2016 21:36 Post ID: #349567 - in reply to #349566
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More stories about Corbyn's retribution against them that have defied him will be deselected (sacked!!!) as MPs.

He sounds like he could be an Oyston!

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28 June 2016 22:35 Post ID: #349570 - in reply to #349564
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Worries me that Benn seems hell bent on war against Syria. Big mistake - especially with Putin supporting Assad. And in relation to Corbyn, he seems an OK bloke to me - but needs to fall on his sword.
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28 June 2016 23:50 Post ID: #349571 - in reply to #349570
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2 problems for Labour:
Firstly, Corbyn is just hopeless as a leader would never get Labour into power. He is more comfortable as a protester, which he has been for the majority of hid life.
Secondly, Corbyn and his entourage are encouraging an extreme left wing agenda and an infiltration and takeover of the party on that basis. The left wingers that had previously been excluded from the party together with unions that had been sidelined could not believe it when Corbyn made it into the leadership race last year and flooded the party with new members to get him elected.
These activists are deluded if they think Labour will get elected and I can see the party either splitting or disintegrating completely
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29 June 2016 12:40 Post ID: #349573 - in reply to #349564
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This is like the perfect storm for the UK. Out of Europe vote so we have the uncertainty for the next two years what our future looks like.

Tory leader resigns so uncertainty for the markets again.

New Tory leader is likely to be right of the party.

Labour in turmoil as a belligerent leader refuses to do the honourable thing like Cameron did and will get re-elected as leader.

Labour going far left.

Liberals finished

Greens never got going.

Public dismayed as we probably head towards an Autumn election
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29 June 2016 12:43 Post ID: #349574 - in reply to #349564
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Crabb to win elections for leader going to have a few quid on it
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29 June 2016 17:47 Post ID: #349577 - in reply to #349574
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Hastings - 29/6/2016 12:43

Crabb to win elections for leader going to have a few quid on it


Angela Eagle would imvho be a strong leadership favourite. She's shown she can rattle Camoron and Gideon already, she's more moderate and has been shafted already by the stupidly obstinate Corbyn having been relegated to the most junior position.

She is also infinitely more electable, the women's vote, the gay vote, the middle, the swingers/undecided, liberals . . . and anyone who could never vote for a far left party.







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30 June 2016 10:42 Post ID: #349581 - in reply to #349564
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Stephen Crabb is the Tory candidate but may have blown it with his anti gay comments.

I get the Eagle sisters mixed up, bright gals but not sure how well they come over on TV which is a big part of modern politics. The one on the TV debates on the Euro campaign I thought was poor.

Corbyn has to back down or Labour is finished
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30 June 2016 19:44 Post ID: #349583 - in reply to #349581
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Could be 2 parties soon, Old New Labour, and Old Looney Left Labour and with the Sweaties all voting for the Crankies and UKIP now pointless and the moderate Tories all resigned that leaves us the hard right Tories (facists) to run our country for the next 20? 30? 40 years?

Thanks Jeremy anti Semite, terrorist sympathiser, Corbyn Oystain you'll have plenty of time to admire slimy Gove our tyrant PM!

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30 June 2016 22:21 Post ID: #349586 - in reply to #349583
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And so it seems the militant wing of Labour has mobilised with the biggest amount of new members in British political history seemingly signing up to support Chairman Corbyn.

Seriously this becoming damaging beyond repair for the opposition!!!

This bloke is a fascist pig!!!!


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"But the radical leftwing group Momentum is understood to have been busy organising to get mass membership sign-ups from sympathisers."




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01 July 2016 11:30 Post ID: #349593 - in reply to #349564
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think it has been said before a new party is in the offing bye bye Corbyn you have ensured the Tories in power for the rest of my life time
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01 July 2016 11:33 Post ID: #349594 - in reply to #349593
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I'm hoping both major parties split and we end up with a system of proportional representation.
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01 July 2016 13:07 Post ID: #349596 - in reply to #349594
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The Tories have already split a number of years ago. The right of the party became UKIP. And if there had been PR they'd have had a bigger share of MPs too.

Labour split when the SDP came about and also when Derek Hatton formed his lefty Militant party. Then there's other offshoots towards the left, Scargill's Socialist Labour and some 20 other lefty parties that contain the words, communist, socialist or workers party.

Corbyn is making Labour into one of these looney left fringe parties. The Tories as unpopular to many as they are will never create divisions and destroy the party like that pillock Corbyn is doing. I really do despair, it's like going back to the dark days of the early 70s!

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01 July 2016 14:56 Post ID: #349599 - in reply to #349564
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Chilcott report next week as well
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01 July 2016 15:38 Post ID: #349600 - in reply to #349599
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Would love to see Straw and Bliar in the dock at Le Hague.
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